Navy SEAL’s Top Tips for Harnessing Stress to Build Courage, Wipe Out Fear & Stop Anxiety Cold

Nick Urban [00:00:04]:
What if the key to living the highest possible quality of life with the most life satisfaction is not about completely avoiding all stress. Our guest today is Lee Maier, a former Navy SEAL and Olympic hopeful. He discovered the detrimental effects of accumulated stress on his health despite being physically fit. He dedicated years to researching and developing true body intelligence, a comprehensive system that integrates and heals the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects of individuals. What I find fascinating about him is that he’s not just sitting back on the couch, preaching to live a stress free lifestyle. Christopher shows an alternative route, one where you can still be successful, work hard, and push the limits of performance. I’m not letting that have a detrimental impact on your health. In this episode, we discuss some positive versus negative stress management tools.

Nick Urban [00:01:10]:
We discuss how to balance structure and flexibility so that you can take more risks but without the stress. We go over the role of personalization, self awareness, and vulnerability, as well as some key factors, such as unconscious breath, the subconscious body, superconscious energy control, balancing the brain hemispheres, and some advice on self experimentation. If this interests you, you can go ahead and pick up his book titled Free For Life, A Navy SEAL’s Path TO Inner Freedom and Outer Peace. You can also reach out to him on his website, which is truebodyintelligence.com, to have a connection call with Christopher. Everything that I’ve mentioned so far will be in the show notes for this episode, which you can find at mindbodypeak.com / the number 174. And I’ll admit, this episode was a bit different than the usual format that we have on this podcast. But because all of us live with some degree of stress, whether it’s acute or it’s chronic, minor, or major, seeing a different way of living and perhaps trying it on for size is something that I’m a big fan of because that’s the only way you can figure out what actually works best for you. Plus, Christopher’s life and work shows that the trade off between stress and success is a false dichotomy, and you can actually perform at your best even while operating within a different stress window.

Nick Urban [00:02:46]:
Alright. Let’s bring him in. Christopher, welcome to the podcast.

Christopher Maher [00:02:51]:
Thank you. Thank you. Happy to be here.

Nick Urban [00:02:54]:
Yes. We will dive right in, and we’ll start today with a little warm up, and that is the unusual nonnegotiables you’ve done so far today for your health, your performance, and your bioharmony.

Christopher Maher [00:03:06]:
Yeah. The the nonnegotiables that I have are first thing I when I wake up in the morning, I go and I shower. I don’t drink any water. I don’t do I don’t do anything. Actually, no. First thing I get up, I brush my teeth, and I get in the shower. Because, you know, I’ve been in the sleep zone, right, in this abstract state of functioning. And water is a really wonderful element to really help you get present.

Christopher Maher [00:03:32]:
The other thing which is a nonnegotiable for me is I receive a minimum of 7 to 8 healing sessions, integration sessions, coach coaching sessions every single week. Wow. Right. And the reason why that’s a nonnegotiable is because I work with people, and I’m asking them to be the best version of themselves. And I feel if I’m requiring them to be receptive and open, it’s probably a really good idea that I am acting the same way in almost every phase of my life. So, that’s crucial. That’s a non negotiable. Another non negotiable for me is my fasting.

Christopher Maher [00:04:18]:
Right? So I stop eating about 9, 10 o’clock at night. I probably start eating again somewhere between, like, noon and 1. And so I’m comfortable with discomfort, and I always feel better, more present mentally, more present physically, more grounded emotionally when I’m in a fasting state. And then my other nonnegotiable is I will stay focused on educating and informing the public at large about the work that I do for 5 years. So I do podcasting. You know, I do Instagram reels. I’m always uploading some insights, some awareness that I have in regards to stress, personal development, health and wellness. And the last nonnegotiable is that I do my very best to be in the moment.

Christopher Maher [00:05:16]:
So even something ridiculous like buying a flight, I typically buy my flights the night before I leave because I just got to this place of, like, I would forecast, okay, I wanna be I really wanna be organized, and I would set out this whole plan and the plan would go to shit every time. That’s not no. I’m done with that. I don’t care if it costs more money. Money can always be made. Right? I prefer the comfort of going on the Internet the night before. Okay. There’s a flight.

Christopher Maher [00:05:45]:
I’m out. See you later. So I do everything that I can to stay in the present moment. I like a quiet mind. I like grounded emotions. I like to have an abundant amount of energy, and I love to complete on the things that I start. So those are all nonnegotiable. So that’s how I live my life.

Nick Urban [00:06:04]:
That procrastinator inside of me loves the idea of waiting to plan my trips to the last minute, but at the same time, it makes me a little nervous thinking about how do you get your accommodations sorted out if you’re booking the flight the night before and say you arrive at 1 AM the local time. Do you, like, book that the same night, or do you just, like, cross your fingers that you’re gonna get in and find something good?

Christopher Maher [00:06:27]:
Yeah. So for instance, I flew to Australia to work with 2 people out there, which are really amazing humans. I said, look. I’ve never been to Australia. I don’t know how they conduct their hotels. So I got a name. I got a list of 5 names of hotels. As soon as I got an attack, I said, look.

Christopher Maher [00:06:45]:
You’re gonna have to take me to 5 different hotels. And I walked in. I went to the front desk. Like I said, I would like to see your rooms. And I walked in. I said, nope. Went to the next one. Nope.

Christopher Maher [00:06:56]:
Went to the next one. Nope. Went to the 4th one. Yep. This is where I’m staying. Because you know what? Whether it’s an Airbnb or it’s a VRBO or it’s a hotel room, they’re always hustling you with the way they take the pictures. Right? Yeah. Always looks better than it really is.

Christopher Maher [00:07:11]:
And I say, look. If I’m going to Australia one time and I’m gonna be here for 10 days, I wanna make sure that the view that I have, the the energy in the room, like, everything’s perfect for me. I need to be in the room. Do I hear a bunch of noise? Can I hear the person above me? Can I hear the person beside me? Because I like solitude, and I like peace and quiet. So when I’m working, I’m all in, like, 100%. Like, I dive in all the way. But when we’re done work, you need to get out of my space because I need to be with me. I need to chill and ground.

Christopher Maher [00:07:45]:
So if I’m gonna fly somewhere, I wanna make sure that it really works for me. So that’s typical for me. Whenever I plan it out too much, it never works out great. It’s like the other day I said, I’m not the type of person who goes to the movies, and I show up before the movie starts. No. I don’t wanna see all the prescreening for all the other movies that are coming. I just wanna show up and see the movie. So I typically leave right around the time the movie’s supposed to start.

Christopher Maher [00:08:15]:
And I get there and I roll in. Well, I said this time, I said, you know what? I’m gonna show up early this movie. I showed up early and they had a yellow band across the front doors. You couldn’t even go in. Then that was confirmation for me of, like, no. You have your way of rolling. I’ve been to that movie theater a 100 times and never seen a yellow band across the front of the theater. I said, okay.

Christopher Maher [00:08:37]:
Do you. And so me, I feel real uncomfortable with the unknown. That’s more exciting to me than the known because I want to leave space and room for the universe to surprise me and give me confirmation every time to always have faith that everything works out exactly the way that it’s supposed to. And for me, it always does.

Nick Urban [00:09:00]:
So this doesn’t create a sense of stress inside of you, leaving room for that knowing that it’s possible that you won’t get exactly what you would have gotten if you had planned ahead, or will you?

Christopher Maher [00:09:12]:
No. I always do. So why would I abandon my strategy if it works for me? Right? And maybe this is just like BS that I tell myself. Right? But at the end of the day, it works for me. Every time I get stressed about something where I want to be in control of the situation, it only ramps up my mind to start overthinking. And next thing I know, I’ve got agitation, frustration, and irritation running through my system. If I let that run for too long, I’m gonna start getting angry. I’m gonna start creating some really strong projections about whatever the circumstances, and I’m not into that.

Christopher Maher [00:09:53]:
I’m into, like, literally go with the flow of what wants to happen. The ease and grace and the easiest way for me to do things is to let go of everything and trust that everything will work out. The worst thing and the most stressful thing in the world is when you’re required to be something for someone else that you are the opposite of. That to me is stressful. So I give everyone the space to be themselves too.

Nick Urban [00:10:19]:
So we’re gonna talk a lot about stress and stress resolution today. Based on what you just said, I think that would be a fun experiment for me to try because I love my structure and having my routines planned out and everything down well in advance. If someone is like that and they already have and like structure, to test this out, are there any ways that you recommend to do it on a less consequential scale or tips to make the process easier?

Christopher Maher [00:10:46]:
I mean, for me, I think if the person likes structure and that’s their strategy and that what that’s what works for them, then they should go with that. Because, you know, I was at a wrestling event with my brother, the NCAA championships. This was in Missouri. Okay? And we’re there, and I can tell as we’re walking, he’s getting stressed thinking we’re gonna be missing seeing this one wrestler wrestle. Right? So in that dynamic, because I can feel his tension building, I can speed things up. Right? So I kinda meet him at the halfway point because he’s in close proximity to me. Now structure works for him, yet I know that since he hangs out with me, you know, 6, 7 times a year, he’s a little more fluid these days than he was before. Before, it’s like I have to be there 15 minutes early before this starts.

Christopher Maher [00:11:40]:
Without that, he was gonna get severely stressed. So I don’t know what he made up in his mind’s eye as a little kid about, the structure of time, but the way that he operates would stress me out. The way that I operate would stress him out. So I give him enough space to be himself. So if I were giving someone some advice, the advice would be figure out what your orientation to time is. Is your orientation to time fixed? If that is, inform the people around you. Because when you inform people around you, they have an opportunity to meet you in that structure or at least halfway. But if you don’t inform someone, and now, you know, there’s an event like Thanksgiving or someone’s graduating from college, and you have the way that you operate it.

Christopher Maher [00:12:32]:
Right? But the they have a way that they operate. They haven’t informed you that this is really important to you. They’re going to be going through that event with agitation and irritation. So however you operate, it’s up to you to inform those around you. Once you inform those around you now people have a really great opportunity to meet you where you’re at, and then you’re gonna feel loved. You’re gonna feel cared for. Otherwise, you’re gonna feel like the other person is careless. You’re gonna feel unloved, and you’re gonna start doubting the relationship.

Christopher Maher [00:13:03]:
Your mind’s gonna go it’s gonna gonna be going wild in, like, 600 different directions simultaneously, and, eventually, you’re gonna be pissed. One, figure out your orientation and time. Is it fixed? Is it instinctual? Is it divine? Some people have divine timing, meaning they know they show up at the right moment. They send out an invitation. Thanksgiving dinner starts at 6. This person shows at 6:14. There’s a knock on the door, and everyone was just getting ready to sit down. Are you that person? Or are you the person who’s fluid? Right? So that means you’re instinctual, like, you show up in the timing that actually is what works for you.

Christopher Maher [00:13:46]:
Right? And then other people are relative. They have a relative sense of time. So, if they’re in Brazil, they do what Brazilians do. Right? If they’re in Israel, they do what Israelis do. If they’re in Boston, they do what Bostonians do. And then other people are fixed. So figure out your orientation at the time and then stick to that because that’s the one that stresses you out the least and inform those around you so that their orientation to time doesn’t start stressing you out. Like, I had this one cat that I was training.

Christopher Maher [00:14:18]:
He was a a professional beach volleyball player. And I’m the type of person I like to get to the airport, like, right when the door is gonna close, I’m comfortable showing up, like, 2, 3, 4 minutes before that. Right? He wants to show up 2 hours before. So he says, hey. Listen. We’re getting ready to go to this event in Chicago. I said, okay. What time should I be at your house? He said, well, I need to be there 2 hours before.

Christopher Maher [00:14:45]:
And I thought, 2 hours before. Man, he needs to relax. So I showed up to his house when I wanted to. Pulled all my bags out, parked my car, went in, saw his brother. I was like, where’s such and such? It was like he left for the airport an hour ago. And I was like, damn. Initially, I thought, oh, that prick, he just left me here? I’m his coach. I’m the one here to help him.

Christopher Maher [00:15:11]:
Right? And then on my ride to the airport from the taxi, I realized, no. He was true to himself. He already informed me, and he was building self esteem because he honored his own relationship to time. When you dishonor your own relationship to time, you reduce your self esteem. And so you gotta figure out what that is, and there is no one way. Just know what you are and then communicate to the people around you.

Nick Urban [00:15:40]:
Do you never have any issues with, like, an abnormally long security line or any variable just dramatically throwing off your timing?

Christopher Maher [00:15:47]:
That’s happened, like, once or twice. Very interesting that you asked this. I was flying from Boston back to Los Angeles, and Waze took me on this side route around because there was this high school graduation going on. And I got stuck in the middle of the high school graduation, and I’m just watching the clock. And I’m watching me be stuck here. And I’m watching the clock and I’m looking at the people and I’m looking at I’m like, okay. I don’t know what’s gonna happen. Whatever’s gonna happen is gonna happen.

Christopher Maher [00:16:20]:
And there was at some point I let go of, like, I took in the possibility that, I might miss my flight. And sure enough, I got up to the front. I saw the last person that they had let in because there’s still still one person hanging out. I’d go to the lady. I show them my thing. She goes, oh, you’re 1 minute behind time. And I said, yeah, but I can see the people that are everyone’s not on the plane yet. And she’s like, yeah, but I I already closed the gate.

Christopher Maher [00:16:53]:
And I was like, oh, okay. I think the universe has a different plan for me. Alright. So then I left, went back to the front gate I mean, went back to the the check-in counter, got a new ticket. They sent me to Detroit. I got back to LA. The person who came to pick me up, as soon as I got in the car, said, thank god your flight was delayed. And I said, why are you saying that? Because it ended up being so much better for me.

Christopher Maher [00:17:25]:
I wanted to stay at this event where I was rather than come pick you up at 2 o’clock. And I was like, cool. So I always see there’s always a reason. Right? And then the universe always gives me confirmation. We’re in control. You’re here to observe what we have going on for you. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. If you’re upset, take it up with the universe.

Christopher Maher [00:17:53]:
Otherwise, stop projecting on everyone else around you. So I use every situation to find another level of freedom so I can stay outside of that stress matrix that everybody else is plugged into. Because when you’re plugged into the stress matrix, man, I mean, you’re just you’re just stressed by everything. Right? And then you’re doing everything you can to manage your stress, but guess what? Negative stress management tools or positive stress management tools. And what are people doing? There are most people are using negative stress management tools around the world as opposed to positive stress management tools. Well, what’s a negative stress management tool? Nicotine. What’s another? Caffeine. What’s another one? Alcohol.

Christopher Maher [00:18:35]:
What’s another one? Marijuana. Pharmaceutical drugs. Sugar. Processed complex junk food. The other ones that people don’t think about, preservatives and food colorings because they totally stress their nervous system out. But see, what happens is what you have to understand is when people are stressed let’s say your stress level is at a 7. Then what you’re gonna do is you’re gonna choose substances that vibrate at a 7. If my stress level is at like a 2, then I’m gonna choose substances that that vibrate at a 2.

Christopher Maher [00:19:06]:
So things that vibrate between 2 are mostly whole foods and natural. Right? Stuff that vibrates at, like, that 7, it’s been highly processed. Like, look at alcohol, highly processed. Look at a cigarette, highly processed, all the chemicals that are inside. Like, everything becomes much more complex because your stress load makes everything about you and your life much more complex. So what I do is I simplify. How how do I do that? Let’s say, look. You’re stressed.

Christopher Maher [00:19:37]:
You come to see me. What are the first things you need to do? You need to get off the daily acceptable drugs because those are all negative stress management tools. How can I get you into state of peace and calm and groundedness if you’re gonna leave here addicted to the daily acceptable drugs? It’s an impossibility. You can afford to live in fantasy. I can’t, and you’re paying me. And because you’re paying me, I have to protect your investment. If I’m required to protect your investment, I’m required to give you information that brings you into reality and keeps you in the truth. If you wanna live in fantasy, you can, but you can’t live in fantasy and live in reality at the same time.

Christopher Maher [00:20:18]:
And so anyone who’s living in fantasy is addicted to daily acceptable drugs. Anyone who’s living in fantasy is addicted to those. And so look. Sure, none of your listeners want to hear that. Right? But, look, here’s the thing. Yeah. Getting off your caffeine and your nicotine and your marijuana, yeah, it’s going to be uncomfortable, but I can promise you this. Your mind’s going to be more clear.

Christopher Maher [00:20:42]:
Your energy is going to be more abundant. Your relationships are gonna be more fluid and loving and present. Your body is gonna be more comfortable. Your sleep is gonna be more satisfying, rich, and deep. And so you gotta do your best to manage your day, and so you have to look at these strategies, these tools as stress management tools. You’re either using positive or you’re using negative. If you’re using negative, then you’re gonna deplete your energy source every day. You’re depleting your neurons.

Christopher Maher [00:21:13]:
Some of those are going back to sleep. You’re silencing genes. Some of those are going to sleep. You’re creating more tension and stress in your body. You’re creating more emotional and psychological distortion. So you’re looking at reality, and reality that you’re looking at isn’t even reality. It’s a fantasy that you’re creating and when you live in that fantasy, you want everyone to jump in that box with you. Are you courageous enough to take a step and look at the how you’re managing your stress? Are you a habitual liar? Is it difficult for you to be honest? Is it difficult for you to be transparent? Is it difficult for you to be vulnerable? Like, find somebody that’s gonna help you at least get honest and vulnerable and transparent with yourself.

Christopher Maher [00:21:58]:
And by doing so, you’ll no longer live in fantasy. And so now we can talk about positive stress management tools. What’s a positive stress management tool? Meditation, intermittent fasting, positive stress management tool, yoga, positive stress management tool, any form of exercise, positive stress management tool. Okay. Breath work, positive stress management tool. Like, there’s tons of positive stress management tools, and do you have to do a lot of it? No. Like, the beautiful thing for me to really impart upon your listeners is you only need to do, like, 10, 15 minutes. Most people think like, oh god.

Christopher Maher [00:22:35]:
My day is so busy. I can’t spend another hour doing something positive. Right? No. You need 10, 15 minutes. Right? If you’re in your shower and that that’s when you meditate, Do these things while you’re already doing other things. Maybe you meditate while you’re wash while you’re doing your laundry, while you’re folding your laundry. The key really is to be present. It’s very difficult to be absent when you’re cooking food because you could burn yourself.

Christopher Maher [00:23:04]:
Right? So do everything you can in your life to figure out how to get more present. Follow your breath for 5 minutes. How hard is that? Like, if 5 minutes is too much for you, do 60 seconds. Right? Do 60 seconds of breath work. Do a 60 second meditation each day. Do 60 seconds of exercise. What does that mean? Like, go out and walk as fast as you can for 60 seconds. And do that every day for 30 days.

Christopher Maher [00:23:41]:
I promise you at the end of the 30 days, your esteem is gonna get higher. And when your esteem gets higher, your mind is more focused on positive stress management tools. But when your esteem is lower, you’re all in for the negative stress management tools.

Nick Urban [00:23:58]:
It’s so interesting that you mentioned that because the actual impact on your body and mind of stress isn’t necessarily about the absolute level of stress that you’re subjected to. It’s about your interpretation of the stress. So we can go through the exact same experience, and it can really stress me out of being what I considered late to the airport. And to you, it can have absolutely no negative impact on your biology.

Christopher Maher [00:24:24]:
Yeah. And that’s where the key is knowing yourself, right, and then operating as you were designed. And once you really understand yourself, it makes it very easy for you to honor your own strategies and be really clear on who it is you are. Because if I’m hanging out with you and I’m we’re on vacation and I’m operating within my timing the same way that you do, well, at some point, I’m gonna feel the need to withdraw away from you to get my own sense of self again. And so, you know, the biggest key to whether you’re managing your stress or developing yourself in any way, shape, or form is really getting clear on what works for you and asking yourself why. And you have to be okay with being different than the masses because how are you going to get in touch with who you are if you never do a deep investigation or even a surface based investigation? Like, I was on the phone today with a group of students of mine, and one of them is designed to hermit. And then she decided to go on vacation, and on this vacation, she decided to show up with a bunch of other people and never have any time for herself. And so she didn’t get to hermit, and so then she’s on this vacation, but she’s being driven crazy because the dynamic doesn’t work for her.

Christopher Maher [00:25:48]:
One third of the planet is designed to move through the world to have time to hermit. If they don’t have time to hermit, it’s impossible for them to process their feelings, their ideas, and their experiences, And so they get clogged emotionally. And when they start getting clogged emotionally, they’re going to start looking for something to manage that clog and numb them out from the circumstance that they’re in. And so if you’re one of these people that you’re aware that you need at least a couple hours a week, if you’re a mom, you got 3 kids, you’re a mom, you got 4 kids, and you’re never getting time to harm it by yourself, you’re gonna start to go insane. And so you gotta talk to your husband. You gotta talk to your parents. You gotta talk to your siblings. Go, look.

Christopher Maher [00:26:36]:
Can we figure out a schedule where I get, like, a half an hour a day to myself? And these are things about you that you have to know. And if you don’t know these things, the ignorance is what makes you susceptible to managing your life with negative stress management tools because you’re gonna get on that biochemical roller coaster. You’re gonna have the booze at night. You’re gonna be convincing yourself that, oh, I need this wine. It’s good for my heart. By the way, you need a 100 bottles of that to be good for your heart. You’re gonna numb out at night, and then you’re gonna overamplify in the morning with your 2 or 3 cups of Joe. And then you’re gonna wonder why 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 years from now, you feel disconnected from your life.

Christopher Maher [00:27:17]:
God, was this the right decision to have kids? Was this the right person to marry? Well, no. You never took enough time to get to know yourself. And so you gotta figure out what really works for you and then you have to communicate to this fear around you to enroll them into creating an environment that actually works for your proclivities, that works for your design, that works for your uniqueness.

Nick Urban [00:27:39]:
Yeah. It seems like the people who live on a more fluid basis, they don’t mind waiting till last minute to make plans or to do things or to show up, have a distinct advantage because they can also plug into plans potentially easier than vice versa.

Christopher Maher [00:27:55]:
And, you know, there’s 16 different types there’s 16 different types of brains. You have quad lefts, which are the most structured, and you have quad rights, which are the most fluid. And I am a quad right. Okay? And it happens to be in partnership. I’ve usually picked people who are quad left. Right? So they’re severely in the structure. I I can do that for a while, and I am stressful for them because of their inability to let go and be with the moment. Like, my saying is always let the moment be the master.

Christopher Maher [00:28:30]:
Everyone, child, adult, woman, man, everyone is serving a moment. And in that moment, there’s an opportunity to experience more love or more anger, more excitement or more anxiety, more confidence or more fear, more righteousness or more self righteousness. The more often you visit the anxiety, the fear, the anger, and the self righteousness, that’s informing you of how stressed you are. Right? The more you’re visiting the unknown with excitement, with confidence, with righteousness, and with love, everything’s easy. So you either want to be on the struggle bus or you wanna be on the ease and grace plan. Right? And so for me, the ease and grace plan always feels more comfortable.

Nick Urban [00:29:29]:
Hard to argue with that. If you’re on the more stressed outside where you like to plan in advance, you like having big heads up, Of course, it’s useful to be able to adapt and be more spontaneous, and I love the idea of that. And I know that it’s not inherent in my current personality. Are there things that I can do to enhance my ability to also go down that route or to, like, lessen the stress I’m feeling as I’m approaching these deadlines? Because, yes, I can do the things like we mentioned, the exercise, the breath work, all of the beneficial stress reduction techniques, but it’d be much better to quell the stress at the source and find a way of accepting the moment as it is.

Christopher Maher [00:30:14]:
Yeah. This is great. So the easiest thing a person could probably do is three things. 1, you’ve got to get your brain balanced. So what I mean is that the left and the right hemispheres have to both be turned on electrically. Okay? And from my education, from my experience, everyone that I’ve ever worked with is either and most of them are left brain dominant, and about 30% of them are right brain dominant. Well, you have to reduce that dominance and have balance on both sides, right, so that you can be practical and pragmatic, and you can be emotional because every experience is requiring something different. So if I’m in a situation, this situation is requiring me to be fixed, I’m okay with it.

Christopher Maher [00:31:06]:
What I mean is I know the plane is probably leaving at 6 AM, so I have to figure out how I’m gonna relate to that. So a strategy is to invite someone in to be able to teach you how to remove massive amounts of stress from your physical body 2, how to turn on your emotional intelligence, and 3, how to turn your brain back on both hemispheres electrically. So how to turn your body on is gonna be through a process called bestercise, which is 16 different positions to reduce the lifetime accumulated stress loads that are sitting in your 16 different organ.

Nick Urban [00:31:54]:
It’s called bestercise?

Christopher Maher [00:31:56]:
Bestercise. Best form of exercise. Bioenergetic self transformational sequences. Best. I call it bestercise, the best form of exercise because you’re using isometric, concentric, and eccentric contraction. So the isometric contraction does what? It allows you to gather more fibers. The concentric contraction allows you to strengthen under load of resistance, and then the eccentric contraction allows you to lengthen under load of resistance. So, basically, you’re opening, gathering more, and strengthening what you just gathered, and now you’re stretching what you just gathered, okay, gathering more and strengthening that again.

Christopher Maher [00:32:39]:
And so as you do this again and again and again and again and again, that creates a strong electromagnetic pulse that moves through your channels and starts feeding your organs, and now your organs become highly charged, highly magnetic, and highly intelligent. And the reason why bestercise is so important is because it raises your physical, your mental, your emotional, your spiritual intelligence. If I can raise all those forms of intelligence, it means that I can manipulate my environment more easily to produce the exact result that I’m looking for, and I can now be more masterful with how I approach every single moment. Now the other thing you need to do, you need to find somebody who will go in and remove the lifetime accumulated stress out of psoas major, psoas minor, and your iliacus. Because that’s gonna 1, it’s gonna turn on your emotional brain, and 2, it’s gonna dump out a massive amount of fear that’s sitting deep in the bowl of your pelvis. Okay? The third thing, you need to get someone who will give you an alignment through a system called Alphabiotics, okay, or alpho, bioenergetics as I call it, and they will help you get your brain, both hemispheres, turned on electrically, which is gonna cause an immediate reduction in the imbalance in your structure. So everyone you laid down if you laid everyone you ever knew on a table and you put their feet together, you would see that they’re between an inch to 2 inches, one leg is longer. For me and my research, every eighth of an inch is a stage of fight or flight.

Christopher Maher [00:34:22]:
Right? So, if you’re an inch out, you’re 8 stages in the fight or flight. Right? So, I already know that you’re using negative stress management tools. Alright? If you’re 2 inches in, I know your negative stress management tools are really, really, really intense, and you’ve had some level of traumatic brain injury, which means you’ve hit your skull into something really, really hard. And so the first step is to get people out of that fight or flight response and deregulate them into a parasympathetic response. So now they’re moving through the world, seeing the world for what’s actually going on as opposed to viewing the world from a fear based position. Because when you’re in a parasympathetic state, you see everything is wonderful. When you’re in sympathetic high state of response, you see everything is a problem that needs a solution. You know, stress is valuable.

Christopher Maher [00:35:14]:
Stress is important as long as it gets you to take heartfelt action to your own benefit. But if you’re outside of the ability to be able to take heartful action to your own benefit, this stress that you’re experiencing is absolutely useless. So use your stress, use your addiction as motivators or inspirers to get you to go, woah. Why do I really drink caffeine? Why am I really smoking? Why am I really hyped up on this marijuana? Why do I need 3 or 4 bowls just to be able to go to work? Okay? Why do I need to be on these pharmaceuticals? Like, you’ve got to be asking yourself what’s going on inside of you that you’re taking this easy street? Look. Everyone pays the piper at the end of the day. So if you’re on those substances, well, guess what happens? You end up with a horrible death. Right? Anyone who’s listened to call, do yourself a favor. Go down to the local nursing home.

Christopher Maher [00:36:17]:
Right? And if that’s what you want for your elderly life, keep doing what you’re doing. But if what you want is an opportunity to ascend when you feel like you’re complete in this life and you wanna be absolutely physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually present through the entirety of your life, then you’ve got to look at what you’re putting in your body and what’s in the way of you taking harmful action to your own benefit because there’s something in the way. And, look, maybe this is just an ancestral pattern, but you gotta interrupt the pattern. And as soon as you interrupt that pattern, guess what? A whole new world opens up to your possibilities. Instead of anxiety, you got excitement. Instead of anger, frustration, agitation, irritation, you got love and care and kindness and compassion. Instead of fear, you got confidence. Okay? You got courage.

Nick Urban [00:37:15]:
I used to think of personality, my own personality included as something that was fixed. And then I noticed that some little shifts here and there changed who I was fundamentally. How often when you’re working with someone do you see an anatomical cause such as a longer leg as a reason that these that their stress baseline is higher or they’re having other dysfunctions that are holding back who they wanna show up as?

Christopher Maher [00:37:43]:
Every single time. The moment you get, now I have a 5 day process that I take people through. Right? They’re seeing me twice a day. I’m getting to in into everything. I’m getting into their fascia. I’m getting into their muscles. I’m getting into their emotionality. I’m getting to their psychology.

Christopher Maher [00:37:56]:
I’m getting to their energy. I’m getting to their moods. I’m getting into every part of them or we’re just stripping things away. Right? Well and I tell them always on the first day, I go, look. Just so you know, you’re never gonna be able to go back to the person that you were because we’re going to be creating such a successful pattern interrupt that there’s no road back. So are you sure this is what you really wanna do? Because you’re gonna be happier. You’re gonna be more present. You’re gonna be more loving.

Christopher Maher [00:38:24]:
Your body’s gonna feel better. You’re gonna sleep better. Your life is gonna make sense. You’re gonna forgive your parents. You and your husband are gonna be able to move into more of a functional relationship. You’re gonna get along better. Like, is this what you really want? Because you got the opposite of this now. And then once we go in and we start making those shifts, then everything in the world changes because because they’re different, everyone in the world treats them different.

Christopher Maher [00:38:49]:
Now they’re out of the martyr role, and now they’re initiating and realizing they’re the number one agent that’s cocreating everything in their life. And now they’re an empowered individual, self realized, self actualized, present. And then, I teach them how to do it to themselves because what do I want? I want people to be able to be motivated and have the tools to match that level of motivation so they can go into and reinforce these deeper levels through more successful pattern interrupts. Because the more you interrupt that pattern, the more opportunities they are. You interrupt it again and again and again. Now the pattern changes. Keep interrupting again and again and the pattern changes. So I do my best to invite someone new into my life every few months that can offer me some help.

Christopher Maher [00:39:40]:
So for instance, this morning, I was receiving esoteric acupuncture from an amazing doctor named Miki Osenki. And as I was leaving my session, there was a woman sitting on the couch. I don’t usually talk to everybody that’s sitting there waiting for their next appointment, But I looked at her and I said, oh, she seems interesting. And so I started up a conversation, and she happens to be a healer. She’s a doctor, and she also has this, attraction to more holistic methods as well. We started talking and she was telling me the way that she works with people. I said, oh, can you give me your number? So I’m gonna call her up. I’m gonna get her number.

Christopher Maher [00:40:14]:
I’m gonna go and have a session because she may be able to help me interfere with another pattern that I don’t even see. See, what you know about you isn’t your issues. Your issues are always the things that you don’t know about yourself, and that’s why it’s always powerful to invite people in to give you perspective on what they can see that’s impossible for you to see because we have a personality and then we have a design. And the the the personality is conscious, but the design is unconscious and subconscious. And your conscious mind doesn’t have access to your unconscious and subconscious for a very particular reason. If it did, imagine the damage that they could do. Right? So your your conscious mind is like this tiny little grain of sand, but your unconscious is analogous to a 55 gallon drum of sand and your subconscious is like all the sand on Earth and your superconscious is like all the sand in the universe.

Nick Urban [00:41:07]:
Wait. So your your subconscious is greater than your unconscious?

Christopher Maher [00:41:11]:
Yes. Much much greater. Now the conscious mind wants you to think that it’s it’s the king, but it’s not. The subconscious and the unconscious and superconscious trickle information up for the conscious mind to be able to have access to, but they have no control over those 3. Right? So this is why talk therapy is only so successful. Right? You actually have to go into the body. You have to go into the breath. You have to go into the energy.

Christopher Maher [00:41:36]:
The unconscious controls the breath. The subconscious controls the body, the instincts, the movement, the position, and the superconscious controls the circulation of energy that you’re projecting out into the field around you and what comes from source 13 levels deep. And each one of these 13 levels has varying levels of density and varying levels of information. And so we’re talking about pure golden consciousness. And so how do I get these radicals levels of pure consciousness to emanate through my body, come up into my breath, and be expressed in my mind so that I can have supreme clarity and then deliver to the moment exactly what wants to be experienced at the highest level possible in a 3rd dimensional plane of projection, reflection, manifestation, generation. Now, obviously, if you’re a listener, you’re gonna have to go back and listen to that, like, 5 or 6 times because I threw a bunch of stuff in there really quickly. But I trust if you’re listening to this cat’s podcast, you’re into growth, you’re into discipline, you’re into performance, and you wanna grow beyond your own limitations. And I wanna be able to help you get there.

Christopher Maher [00:42:40]:
So the stuff that I’m giving you, it’s valuable. It’s been tested, tried, and true. I put in over a 100000 hours to develop this body of work.

Nick Urban [00:42:48]:
You also your background, you’ve studied under Montauk Chia and some traditional Chinese medicine and also western science. So you’re able to, like, look at this, your system through both lenses.

Christopher Maher [00:43:01]:
Yes. My mind works as a scientist, and what that means is I put things to the test. So you can give me this information. I can go in the system, but this system that we’re using, it needs to be repeatable, it needs to be verifiable, and it needs to be acted out by anyone. If it requires a certain amount of intelligence or talent, then for me, it has less value. I want something that I can teach it to any person in the world and then they can do that to anyone and it produces the same exact result without massive amounts of education. Right? I want things that are simplistic, easily implemented, that produce profound instantaneous results. And for me, if it does that, then it’s credible.

Christopher Maher [00:43:48]:
And so I’ve been into everything. All kinds of yoga, I’ve tested those out, all kinds of breath work, all kind different types of acupuncture, all types of holistic care, all different types of mind work, you know, you name it. If it’s out there, I’ve investigated it thoroughly through putting myself through the process to see what the outcomes were and then asking those around me what changes do you notice that I am unable to see.

Nick Urban [00:44:17]:
Did you have these tools, or were you using them or aware of them as a Navy SEAL?

Christopher Maher [00:44:23]:
No. What I was using as a Navy SEAL was my willfulness and my observation and my ability to investigate thoroughly. Right? And so my will has always been supremely strong, and I did everything that I could to learn everything that they had to offer, and it produced a really good thing for me. But will only got me so far because what happened is I over engaged my will. And because I over engaged it, my body was never fully recovering from the amount of stress that I was putting in, and I started accumulating massive amounts of stress. So that by the time I was 29, I was losing my hearing. 31, I was losing my vision. By 33, I needed a full blown hip replacement.

Christopher Maher [00:45:14]:
Like, I was an absolute mess because my will was over engaged. And when your will is over engaged, it’s wonderful to have a strong will, but there is a cost if your will is greater than your body’s ability to heal from the stress that you’re putting it under. And then once I started to open my body up and reduce that lifetime accumulated stress load, and then, I could then take in more stress, but I could process it through my system really quickly. And so the key is realize that all humans have a high level of stress load. And what I mean by that is this. Through my investigation, the average human being is operating at 86% of their maximal saturation of stress, which means you only got another 14%. Once you get above in that 90 range, you’re out of fight or flight and you’re living in shock. And how do we know this? Go to your local city, walk around at homeless people, and you’re gonna see people that are living in a constant state of shock.

Christopher Maher [00:46:22]:
Okay? So we’re we’re we’re at, like, 86%. What happened during the pandemic? Right? We saw loads of homelessness everywhere. Why? Because the stress loads went beyond what people could manage because they no longer had access to what? Their negative or positive stress management tools. And so their stress loads went high. When their stress loads went even just just a tiny bit higher, the amount of homelessness in Los Angeles increased, like, tenfold. So people that had homes were suddenly on the street within 30 days, had never been on that never lived on the street before. The question is why. The question that the answer is simple.

Christopher Maher [00:46:58]:
If the average human is operating at 86% of their maximal saturation of stress that’s being stored in their structural tissues, what I mean is their ligaments, their tendons, their bones, their muscles, and their fascia, okay, their minds, their emotions, and their energy, if that’s that high, then and all you need to do is get to that 90% range to be in a state of shock, which means unable to function at capacity, to be able to maintain a home, to be able to maintain a job, to be able to maintain relationships, then you’re gonna be diving into the street. So what do you need to do? Well, you have to take prudent action. And what’s the well, now that you know the information and I promise you, everyone who’s listening, you’re listening, I promise you, if I brought it in my office and I put you on the floor and I started testing you out, you too would find that you’re at 86% of your maximal saturation stress. I don’t care if you’re a professional athlete. I don’t care if you’re a doctor. I don’t care if you’re a billionaire. You have exactly what every other single person has because you were born into this stress. This stress was passed off to you through the epigenetics into your genetics, and you were preprogrammed to have all of this stuff in your body.

Christopher Maher [00:48:12]:
So the question is whether or not you have the courage to be able to reduce this. So the prudent action to take is to be able to reduce your lifetime accumulated stress load, and I’ve created a system that allows that to happen in a very organic fashion and then teaches you how to reduce it every day yourself. Because every day, guess what? You put in another load of stress. Why? You had to breathe the filthy air we have. You had to drink the dirty water we drink. You have to eat the compromised foods that we eat, and you have to go to work and you have to do all the things that everybody else does. So your daily daily your daily stress load is high. If you’re on Earth in these very complex times and these complex stresses, your stress load is high.

Christopher Maher [00:48:56]:
So what’s the key? Reduce your lifetime accumulated stress load so that your daily stress hardly has any effect on you. That’s the key.

Nick Urban [00:49:04]:
One thing I was thinking about when you were describing the different stressors, both positive and negative, is that if you’re using things, say coffee or nicotine, sure, they have their benefits like the polyphenols and other phytochemicals and bioactives, but you’re also still adding to your stress bucket, which if we’re already at 86%, 90 is not very far away. So when you go to add exercise on top of that, you’re getting even closer and even closer until eventually the water starts spilling out of the bucket. And the more you add on of those things, the more recovery or stress, like, management techniques and activities and dedicated time you have to carve out to keep it under that 90%.

Christopher Maher [00:49:49]:
Yeah. And so the key really is, like, the three things that I told you before, which is was the alphabiotic alignment to be able to do ice centric strength to be able to do best their size. Within 28 days, you’re gonna you’re gonna reduce that number by, like, 20, 30%. Right? What you every human needs to do, they need to get out of that initial state of fight or flight. Because once they get out of that, their brain, which is your brain’s job, is to register damage. Okay? But when half of it’s offline electrically, it’s unable to see exactly what’s going on. It’s unable to govern at its capacity. What does govern mean? It’s unable to fix the problems that exist inside of you.

Christopher Maher [00:50:29]:
Right? So when you’re doing your buster size, when you’re getting an alignment, when you’re doing your eye centric strength, you’re turning on these different systems inside of your body because your body is highly intelligent. It will go in and figure out what needs to be solved. And when you’re sleeping, it will solve those problems. But if you’re going to bed and you’ve never broken into a state of supreme balance electrically between the left and right hemisphere, your body’s never fully recovering no matter how much sleep you get. You could sleep 14 hours, and you’re never fully recovering because your brain is unable to see electrically what it needs to govern completely.

Nick Urban [00:51:08]:
So are there any other major components of your system that we should discuss, or are those the big three?

Christopher Maher [00:51:14]:
Obviously, you have to do. Right? Like, meaning you have to get into the structural tissues. You gotta get into the fascia. You have to learn how to breathe relative to your level of discomfort or pain or anxiety. You know, these are frontal fundamental elements. And we need to know, are you an internal processor? Are you an external processor? Most humans are internal processors, meaning that if they’re in pain, they keep that pain to themselves. And so an easy thing to do, which requires no money at all, right, is find a friend. You some you can even find a stranger at the airport and just sit down and start talking to someone and start offloading some of your worries or your confusions or your anxieties, and that alone is helpful.

Christopher Maher [00:51:57]:
Like, grab a chair, sit in front of a mirror, look in your own eyes, tune into the windows of your soul, and ask yourself, what is it that I really need to be doing with my life? How should I be spending my time? How should I be spending my energy? How should I be spending my money? What actions should I take to my own benefit? Like, sit down and have 10 minutes with yourself. All this requires is time. No money is exchanged. Right? Sit down with a friend and go, oh my god. I’m struggling with this. And simply by admitting it out loud that you’re struggling, it’ll invite somebody else into your experience. My god. And maybe they’ll relate to you and go, wow, Susie.

Christopher Maher [00:52:40]:
I’ve been dealing with a bit of the same thing. You too? Because a lot of times when we’re suffering from something, we think we’re an island onto ourself, and we’re the only person in the world that’s having this experience. And once you find out that, oh, you’re having this too, well, I’m having this, and I went through that for 6 months. And then I I I was introduced to this guy, and he’s been helping me a lot. Well, who’s this guy? What’s his number? Does does does he have a Facebook page? Right? Does he have an Instagram account? Can I start following him? Can I start getting a little education? Can I get that understanding? Because the truth is once humans have a deep understanding of their circumstance, it’s much easier for them to take heartfelt action to their own benefit unless they’re in, like, sufferingsville, and then they’ll jump in without any information because they wanna get out of the hell that they’re in. And as soon as you get something off your chest, you already feel more at peace. Because when things are inside, they cause excessive containment, and containment creates excessive heat. When you have excessive heat, heat rises.

Christopher Maher [00:53:45]:
Where does it rise to? It rises to your brain. And when your brain gets hot, it gets overactive. When that gets too overactive, now your body starts producing anxiety. Now the anxiety increases, and then eventually, you’re running to find the closest negative stress management tool that you can do to interfere with this pattern of anxiety that’s too overwhelming for you. And so you gotta start at the basics. You’ve got to get into your body and reduce this lifetime accumulated stress load.

Nick Urban [00:54:18]:
Christopher, you said a minute ago that most people are internal processors, and if you’re speaking to someone else about it, to me, that seems like it would be a tool available to external processors, but not necessarily internal processors.

Christopher Maher [00:54:31]:
Correct. So that internal processor is going to have to be courageous. Right, and find the one person in your life that you trust that would never share your secret, and you’re gonna have to tell them. Or you can write a letter to them and just write the letter. Maybe you never send it. But at least in writing the email, you got it off your chest. If you have a journal, hey, internal processor. Grab your pen, grab your pencil, grab some paper, and write down what you’re struggling with.

Christopher Maher [00:55:07]:
When you put it on paper, it comes into the it comes into the material world. When it lives in your head, it’s never in the material world. And as long as it lives in there, it’s only becoming more complex because the things that are inside that wanna be addressed, they want to come outside. And they’re going to do whatever they can to get your attention, to get you to puke this thing out in some way, shape, or form.

Nick Urban [00:55:30]:
When I joined a men’s group here in Austin, I was blown away just how therapeutic it was. I would bring up things going on in my life, my world, thinking there was this obscure crazy thing that no one else had even heard of. And then we go around the room and people would reflect on how recently they experienced the exact same thing over and over again. It was, like, only a few people in the entire circle that hadn’t experienced it. And just without them doing or saying anything other than the fact that they understood and they experienced it, it felt like a huge weight lifted off me.

Christopher Maher [00:56:05]:
Yes. Because, you know, we’re we’re here together. Like, we’re here on this planet to evolve. Right? The solar system is evolving. The galaxy is evolving. The universe is evolving. We’re evolving. And we can either struggle through that evolution or we can move through it with ease and grace.

Christopher Maher [00:56:25]:
And so pick one of the strategies. Right? Like, take one of your daily acceptable drugs and reduce your relationship to it. And if you wanna plan, like look. I wrote a book. It’s called Free For Life. Go to truebodyintelligence.com. Get the audio version of the book so you can hear my voice and I can give you the energetic transmission that will help you build enough courage inside of yourself to take a risk. Like, it was a risk for you to join a men’s group.

Christopher Maher [00:56:58]:
Right? It’s it’s a risk to go to the gym. It’s a risk to go see the chiropractor. Right? It’s a risk to run a marathon. Like, all of it’s a risk. But on the other side of that risk is the opportunity for reward. And so if you’re listening to the call and you’re riskless, in the places where you’re risky and you’re taking reward, right, you’re going for the gold, who cares? Man, I might be tired for 5 days without this caffeine. I might get a headache. Great.

Christopher Maher [00:57:27]:
Endure the headache. Right? Suffer through the headache. And then 5 days later, feel how much better you are when you wake up in the morning. Like, if you’re feeling exhausted and your husband snores all through the night, take a risk. Grab your pillow. Go lay on the couch and sleep. Get a good night’s rest. Because a lot of people, that’s all they really need.

Christopher Maher [00:57:52]:
They need a really solid night rest, and then they’re willing to take a risk. But most people, their energy is so reduced, it’s impossible for them to take a risk because they don’t have enough energy to take action on a benefit. So if you sleep terrible next to your partner, go sleep on the couch. If they’re a snorer and they’ve kept you up every night for the last 10 years, sleep with them on the weekends, but sleep on your own during the week so you have your energy. Right? Because when you have your energy, everything’s possible. But when your energy is really reduced, it makes it very difficult to dig up the courage to take a risk on some part of your life where you know you have an inner deficiency or an insecurity. It’s very difficult to do so.

Nick Urban [00:58:37]:
Making change and breaking disturbing habits and replacing those with something better takes energy. It takes willpower initially. And if you’re already physically not doing as well, that’ll spill over to your mental, your emotional, your spiritual life, and it just becomes like an uphill battle. But if you just fix any of those components, each of those components that you work on and improve carries over into the others, and it’s the whole idea of a rising tide lifting all boats.

Christopher Maher [00:59:07]:
There you go. And so the opposite is also true. Right? Like, reverse engineer everything he said, and you’re gonna get to the place of going like, oh, so if I stay the way that I am, I’ll still be under the belief that life happens to me. If you’re in Strugglesville and look, everyone you know is in Strugglesville somewhere. The most important thing is forget about them. The most important thing is that you look at the area where you’re struggling the most and you get honest. If you can be honest with yourself, if you can simply say I’m a failure at this, Now you open the door to go, oh, wow. I’m being honest.

Christopher Maher [00:59:45]:
I’m failing at this. Well, guess what it takes in order to be successful? You have to fail again and again and again and again. Failure is the greatest aspect of success. And we’re we’re willing to admit that we’re failures, whether that’s in your communication, whether you’re a failure in your honesty, whether you’re a failure in your ambition, whether you’re a failure in your consistency, whether you’re a failure in your power, whether you’re a failure in in your humor, like, whatever it is, get after it. Life is short. It goes by really fast. Yet, when you make these incremental changes, everything in your life slows down. And now you get to appreciate the beautiful, amazing human being that you were always designed to be.

Christopher Maher [01:00:30]:
And all it takes is a little bit of courage. So whatever you gotta do to get a good night’s sleep, go get it.

Nick Urban [01:00:38]:
Christopher, this has been a fascinating conversation for me because for most of my life, actually, until right now, I’ve seen stress as something that I’m working to become resilient against. I want to build up all these habits and tools and practices so that it doesn’t affect me the way it has throughout my life. But then from this conversation, I’m realizing that that’s one approach, but it’s really putting a Band Aid over a larger issue and instead changing the way I perceive and view stress. The same moment to you isn’t stressful as it would be to me going to the airport at the last minute, for example. So these exercises and tools and tips you’ve shared so far have been really helpful. And if people want to work with you, to connect with you, how do they go about that?

Christopher Maher [01:01:29]:
The easiest way is go to truebodyintelligencedot com. As soon as you go there, my face is gonna come up on the cover of my book like blam. It’s gonna be sitting right in front of you. You know what? Order the book. Take a risk. As soon as you read the book and you complete on that, you can email me. You’ll email my assistant at support at true body intelligence dot com, and she will put us on a connection call, and the connection call is free. I assume you care enough about yourself to even take the time to listen to this podcast.

Christopher Maher [01:02:00]:
If you need to listen to this 10 times, do it until you’re ready to take action. Sometimes you have to beat down the old pattern to open up the tiniest little bit of space so you can squeeze through there and be able to take a risk. And when you take that risk, I will be there for you to help you. But you have to have a little bit of a vested interest and the way you gain vested interest is by ordering a book and being invested in listening or reading. And the more vested you are in your life, the more life is vested in you getting what it is you really want to experience.

Nick Urban [01:02:41]:
I have a couple more questions for you. If there was a worldwide burning of the books and all knowledge was lost, but you get to save the works of 3 teachers that have informed your personal life or your work or anything, who would you choose and why?

Christopher Maher [01:02:56]:
I would choose Montak Chia, first off, because he wrote 52 books. So by choosing him, I know we have a vast amount of knowledge. Right? And the reason I would choose him is because, you know, Montauk and I have a very similar perspective is that we want to reach people and teach them how to take care of themselves, but we also wanna be the embodiment of the product that we’re teaching. And so I value congruence. Another person that I would choose is a book called The Way the Peaceful Warrior by a guy named Dan Millman. And that book was one of the first books that kinda like turned on a few lights for me and I was like as I was reading it, I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Christopher Maher [01:03:44]:
Oh, yeah. And I’ve read the book several times. It was a place that got me started on my journey, so I would wanna be able to have access to that book. Okay? Because that was the beginning for me. The other book that I would, want to be here for all time would be my book.

Nick Urban [01:04:07]:
Fair.

Christopher Maher [01:04:08]:
And, no, I’m not a narcissist. It it’s because I want to serve other people powerfully, and I know the work that I put together is is profound. And I know it’s a message done in a way that will get people to go, I finally get it. Mhmm. I need to take action.

Nick Urban [01:04:29]:
Perfect. And then finally, what is one thing that the True Body Intelligence tribe does not know about you?

Christopher Maher [01:04:39]:
I think what they don’t know about me is how much I avoid doing something that I love supremely, which is playing the piano.

Nick Urban [01:04:50]:
Awesome. Alright. Then the last one, if people have made it this far, do you have any parting words of wisdom for them?

Christopher Maher [01:04:56]:
Well, if you made it this far, then, my parting word of wisdom is listen again because I use language that would be new to you. And so in order to grok a concept, a healthy brain needs to hear things 9 to 32 times. And that’s assuming you have a healthy brain, and you’ve never been addicted to the daily, acceptable drugs. Listen to you and I again and listen until you feel like, okay, I’m ready to take some action. Like, if you listen to this call and you understand every aspect of what I’m saying, then it’s it’s time to take action.

Nick Urban [01:05:35]:
Christopher, this has been a really fun recording podcast with you, and I thank you a ton for joining me and sharing your life’s work so far and some of your wisdom. And thank all of you for tuning in, and it’s one thing to take this in as knowledge. But as Christopher said, go out there and try implementing some of the things you’ve learned, and let us know on social media how that goes. I hope that this has been helpful for you. If you enjoyed it, subscribe and hit the thumbs up. I love knowing who’s in the 1% committed to reaching their full potential. Comment 1% below so that I know who you are. For all the resources and links, meet me on my website at mindbodypeak.com.

Nick Urban [01:06:22]:
I appreciate you and look forward to connecting with you.